How to Convert a Trailer with Surge Brakes to Electric Over Hydraulic Brakes
Question:
Looking at buying a trailer, but the one that has the options I want has surge brakes instead of electric or electric over hydraulic. Is there a way to convert the surge to electric over hydraulic? Thanks.
asked by: Rob
Expert Reply:
You can convert surge brakes to an electric over hydraulic braking system. To do this, you will need an electric over hydraulic actuator and a brake controller.
For an electric over hydraulic actuator, I recommend looking at the Carlisle HydraStar units. If your trailer has drum brakes, you will want part # HBA-10. If your trailer has disc brakes, then you will want part # HBA16. I have also attached a link to all of our electric over hydraulic actuators for you to check out your options.
The next item you will need is a brake controller. It is important to choose a brake controller that is compatible with electric over hydraulic brakes. The brake controller that I would recommend is the Tekonsha Prodigy P3 Trailer Brake Controller, # 90195. This is a proportional brake controller that is easy to use and competitively priced. Unfortunately, the Tekonsha PowerTrac brake controller, # 39523, that you referenced is not compatible with electric over hydraulic systems.
The last part that you will want to look at is the actuator that is currently on the trailer. If the trailer has surge brakes, then it likely has an actuating coupler. Since the coupler will no longer need to be actuated, I recommend locking out the coupler or replacing the it with a standard coupler. It may be easier to lockout the coupler if it is welded to the tongue or, depending on the age of the trailer and the style of the actuating coupler, it may be easier to unbolt the actuating coupler and install a standard coupler.
Once you have found a solution for your coupler, you will simply run the brake line that was previously going to the actuating coupler to the electric over hydraulic actuator. I recommend using a junction box like the # HS381-9000 to better organize the wiring on your trailer. You'll also need to add a breakaway kit like the Hopkins # 20400. I have attached two FAQ articles on adding electric over hydraulic disc and drum brakes for you to check out.
Gary
5/6/2020
I have a 2016 Ford F-150 with a optional electric brake controller. Is it compatible with electric over hydraulic trailer brakes.
Products Referenced in This Question
Hopkins Engager Push-To-Test Trailer Breakaway Kit with Built-In Battery Charger - Top Load
- Trailer Breakaway Kit
- Kit with Charger
- Top Load
- Single-axle
- Tandem-axle
- LED Tester
- Hopkins
more information >
Tekonsha Prodigy P3 Trailer Brake Controller - 1 to 4 Axles - Proportional
- Trailer Brake Controller
- Proportional Controller
- Electric
- Electric over Hydraulic
- Automatic Leveling
- Under-Dash Box
- Dash Mount
- Up to 4 Axles
- LCD Display
- Up to 360 Degrees
- Tekonsha
more information >
Hydrastar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator for Drum Brakes - 1,000 psi
- Brake Actuator
- Electric-Hydraulic Brake Actuator
- 1000 psi
- Drum Brakes
- Hydrastar
more information >
Hydrastar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator for Disc Brakes - 1,600 psi
- Brake Actuator
- Electric-Hydraulic Brake Actuator
- 1600 psi
- Disc Brakes
- Hydrastar
more information >
Wiring Kit for Hydrastar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuators
- Accessories and Parts
- Brake Actuator
- Disc Brakes
- Hydraulic Drum Brakes
- Wiring
- Hydrastar
more information >
Product Page this Question was Asked From
Tekonsha POD Trailer Brake Controller - 1 to 2 Axles - Time Delayed
- Trailer Brake Controller
- Time Delayed Controller
- Electric
- Automatic Leveling
- Under-Dash Box
- Dash Mount
- Up to 2 Axles
- Indicator Lights
- Up to 360 Degrees
- Tekonsha
more information >
Featured Help Information
Instructions
Miscellaneous Media
Continue Researching
- Shop: Hydrastar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator for Drum Brakes - 1,000 psi
- Shop: Hydrastar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator for Disc Brakes - 1,600 psi
- Shop: Brake Controller
- Shop: Hydrastar Marine Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator w/ Breakaway and 7-Way RV Harness - 1,600 psi
- Shop: etrailer Electric Trailer Brakes - Self-Adjusting - 10" - Left/Right Hand Assemblies - 3.5K
- Shop: Suspension Enhancement
- Shop: Hopkins Engager Push-To-Test Trailer Breakaway Kit with Built-In Battery Charger - Top Load
- Article: Adding Electric Over Hydraulic Disc Brakes
- Shop: Hydrastar Vented Marine Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator for Disc Brakes - OEM - 1,600 psi
- Shop: Hydraulic Brake Kit - Uni-Servo - Free Backing - Dacromet - 10" - Left/Right Hand - 3,500 lbs
- Video: Trailer Valet JXS Trailer Jack Review
- Video: Review of Trailer Valet Trailer Jack - JXS Sidewind Trailer Jack With Adjustable Leg - TV36FR
- Shop: Trailer Wiring
- Q&A: Parts Needed to Swap a Trailer With Surge Brakes to Electric Brakes
- Video: HydraStar Marine Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator Installation
- Article: Trailer Drum Brakes vs. Disc Brakes: Making the Decision
- Shop: Trailer Hitch
- Video: Review of Hydrastar Brake Actuator - Electric-Hydraulic Brake Actuator - HS481-8067
- Video: Hydrastar Brake Actuator HS304-7169 Review
- Q&A: Best Kit to Convert Boat Trailer from Surge Brakes to Electric Over Hydraulic
- Search Results: electric brake conversion kit
- Article: Parts Needed to Add Electric Drum Brakes to a Trailer
- Article: Trailer Wiring Diagrams
- Video: Titan Brake Actuators with Reverse Lockout Replacement Solenoid Valve Installation
- Search Results: brake hose
- Video: Review of Dexter Replacement Master Cylinder Assembly Dexter Model 10 20 Disc - T4749501042
- Search Results: electric drum brakes
- Q&A: Can Electric Brakes be Used on a Boat Trailer
- Search Results: surge brake actuator
- Search Results: electric~hydraulic brake actuator
Dave F.
6/28/2020
Can I use the HBA-16 with my current drum brakes? I plan on upgrading to disc brakes in the future and don’t want to have to buy two units. Also do I need to modify my swing away surge tongue to use this part?