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This shock-absorbing pin box works with your gooseneck hitch to give a smooth ride while you tow your fifth-wheel trailer. The all-in-1 box has no air bags to refill or small parts to replace. Manual latch allows for simple hookup. 4.5K pin weight.
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| Calculated Tongue Weight | Executive Tongue Weight Capacity Required |
|---|---|
| 1,600-2,599 lbs | 3,500 lbs |
| 2,600-3,599 lbs | 4,500 lbs |
| 3,600-4,599 lbs | 5,500 lbs |
| 4,600-5,599 lbs | 6,500 lbs |
| 5,600-6,599 lbs | 7,500 lbs |
| 6,600-7,599 lbs | 8,500 lbs |
| 7,600-8,599 lbs | 9,500 lbs |
Say your truck has a gooseneck hitch for towing your horse trailer, but you want to go camping with your new fifth wheel. You could outfit your truck with a new fifth-wheel hitch that attaches to your existing gooseneck hitch, but that means having to move a heavy, bulky hitch into and out of your truck bed all the time.
You could also purchase an adapter that bolts onto your trailer's existing pin box. But adding a new component to your setup can keep your pin box from working how it was designed. King pin adapters can create a stiff ride and can even strain your fifth wheel's frame by adding too much height at the connection point.
A better option is to use this gooseneck-compatible pin box to easily tow your fifth-wheel trailer with your truck's gooseneck hitch. The box replaces your trailer's existing pin box, which means it's designed to act as a part of your trailer instead of simply bolting over your king pin like an adapter does.
If you've ever towed a fifth-wheel trailer before, you're no stranger to road shock. Driving over uneven terrain can result in a rigid, bumpy ride. And uncomfortable fore-and-aft chucking can occur when you're starting and stopping. When all of the motions combine, the road shock can even potentially damage your truck or trailer.
This Gen-Y Hitch torsion pin box is designed to absorb road shock at the connection point to create a safe, smooth ride. This is thanks to the internal construction of the box, which is similar to that of a torsion axle.
Pivot points are built into the Gen-Y pin box adapter. This allows for movement between the box, which attaches to your trailer, and the coupler tube, which connects to the gooseneck hitch ball in your truck bed. When your trailer bounces or jerks, the coupler tube will move accordingly.
Built into the Gen-Y pin box are tubes with inner bars that are surrounded by rubber cords. As the coupler end moves, these inner bars twist inside of the tubes, attempting to follow the coupler's motion. But the rubber cords prevent the bars from twisting too far. And as each bar turns, these cords compress to absorb the rough shock. This means that any shock experienced by your truck can be absorbed before it reaches your trailer, and the shock experienced by your trailer won't get transferred to your truck.
The vertical load, or pin weight, refers to the weight that a fully loaded trailer exerts downward on the hitch ball in the truck bed. Too little vertical load can cause trailer sway and too much can cause poor performance.
This Gen-Y pin box has a built-in scale so that you can check to see if your vertical load is too high or too low. The red section on the top of the scale indicates your maximum vertical load (4,500 lbs). The red section on the bottom of the scale indicates no vertical load (0 lbs). For the built-in shock absorption to function effectively, the scale's white indicator marker should be within the green section when you hook up your trailer to tow.
Videos are provided as a guide only. Refer to manufacturer installation instructions and specs for complete information.
Hi there, I'm Michael with etrailer.com. Today, we're gonna take a quick look at this Gen-Y Hitch shock absorbing 5th wheel to gooseneck pin box. This is going to replace the 5th wheel pin box on your trailer. It's going to allow you to hook up to your gooseneck ball in your truck bed so that you can tow your trailer with that ball. So this is gonna be great for those of you who typically haul gooseneck trailers, you really just have that one 5th wheel. Rather than having to load that big, heavy 5th wheel hitch into your truck, and then take it out the next time you're ready to tow your gooseneck, this is gonna convert your 5th wheel so that it will work with that gooseneck ball.
This is designed specifically to replace the Fabex 665 and M&M 665 5th wheel pin boxes. So if you have either of those, you can trust this is gonna fit right in place of that original. This is going to secure with these included 5/8 diameter bolts here, so it is gonna be a very simple installation 'cause it's gonna fit right in place there, but it is gonna be pretty challenging because these are very heavy. So you probably need at least two sets of hands to lower that original pin box, lift this one up in its place, get those bolts put in place. So definitely not something that's going to be a one person kind of job, unless you have a jack, so you'll definitely need some support with it, all right.
So because this might be just a little bit shorter than your original pin box, you might have a few more clearance issues if you're turning corners and that sort of thing. So I just want to give you kind of an idea. So this is fairly level right now, this lowest front most bolt hole here, we're at about 9 1/8 of an inch up from the bottom of our coupler. And so will kind of give you an idea of how this is gonna compare it to your current pin box. Again, if it is a little bit shorter, you might have a few more clearance issues when you're turning corners and that sort of thing, but once this is mounted in place, of course it is going to then connect to the 2 5/16 inch hitch ball that's in your truck bed.
They've got this pin style latch here that will secure the ball inside that coupler, so you're gonna have a nice secure connection there. This is a really nice heavy duty steel construction. So it's gonna hold up really well. Gen-Y has a great reputation for building very robust, solid products and this is no exception. So this is gonna be a nice heavy duty option.
It's gonna give you a towing capacity of 30,000 pounds. Of course, that is the weight of the trailer plus the load included. You're going to have a pin weight capacity range of between 2000 and 4,500 pounds. The reason for that range is because of our shock absorbing technology here. So if you have less than that 2000 pounds, it's not really gonna engage properly. And if you have more than that 4,500 pounds, it's gonna overtax the system, so you're really not gonna get that shock absorbing capability from that. So you wanna make sure that that's in the right range there, but they do include this gauge here on the bottom arm. So that little meter sticker there, the red-green-red is gonna line up with this white line here. So you wanna make sure that that white line is in that green range. If it is, then you're within that pin weight range that they suggest, if not, you'll have to rearrange your trailer to make sure that it's within that range in order for the shock absorbing to really take place like it's supposed to. Now, the way the shock absorbing technology works, you can see, we have these two arms here at these pivot points. It's gonna function like a torsion axle, if you're familiar with that concept. So I've got a little cutaway here to help demonstrate that a little bit better for you. So you can see we've got this square bar in the center and then these rubber cords around it. So as those arms flex, as you hit bumps in the road, that square bar is going to start turning in there and that rubber's gonna help dampen that movement. So it's gonna absorb a lot of that shock movement. So it's gonna be a much more smooth, steady ride for you. It's gonna help to reduce the chucking and rough fore-and-aft motion and as well as limit the bouncing, jarring up-and-down kind of motion. So it's gonna make it much smoother for you. So that bumps that you hit in the road, aren't gonna transfer from your truck back to your trailer and vice versa from your trailer back to your truck. So if you are towing a 5th wheel camper or something like that, you're not gonna have to worry about your dishes falling out of the cabinets because it's such a rough ride. And likewise, it's gonna be a lot more smooth and comfortable for you as you're towing up in your truck. Another benefit to this system is that it's gonna be super low maintenance. So unlike systems that use airbags to give you that cushion, you're not gonna have to worry about air pressure or anything like that, so it's basically gonna be a set it and forget it kind of thing. Once you get it installed and hooked up, it's just gonna automatically start absorbing that shock, again, as long as you're within that range so that you're not overloading the system, it's gonna hold up really well. It's got a lot fewer moving parts, so a lot fewer components that could go bad and need to be replaced in the future. So it's a really nice system here to absorb that shock, make it a little bit more comfortable for you and the trailer that you're towing. So, like I said, this is a heavy duty steel. It's got this powder coat finish on it to help resist rust and corrosion. So again, very long lasting, it is made here in the USA so you can trust it is gonna be nice quality materials. And like I said, Gen-Y does have a great reputation for building very robust products. So I think this is gonna do a really good job for you if you're wanting to switch from that 5th wheel so that you can pull it with your gooseneck ball, this is gonna be a great option. We do wanna make sure that you are getting the right one for your trailer. So like I said, this is for the Fabex 665 or the M&M 665. So if you have any other trailers, we do have different packages for those to make sure that it's gonna fit your pin box correctly. So that completes our look for today. Again, I'm Michael with etrailer.com. Thanks for watching..
Average Customer Rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (237 Customer Reviews)
This shock-absorbing pin box works with your gooseneck hitch to give a smooth ride while you tow your fifth-wheel trailer. The all-in-1 box has no air bags to refill or small parts to replace. Manual latch allows for simple hookup. 4.5K pin weight.The Gen-Y gooseneck has been excellent! I now have approximately 12k miles on mine and it rides very nicely with very limited chucking and handles rough roads very well. I’d highly recommend that you contact Gen-Y BEFORE ordering to ensure you get the correct load rating product. Gen-Y and Etrailer have provided excellent customer and tech support! This product definitely frees up your truck bed and does require a precise line up to hitch.
This hitch reduced chucking very well, I have a 2004 3500 Dodge Ram 4x4 Conestoga riding truck with very stiff suspension, the torsion action of the hitch definitely helps when crossing bridges and pot holes. The 5th wheel is an older Keystone Copper Canyon that is in great shape. I Have 12K miles with the new hitch.
I love this hitch I put it on my 35’ Astoria fifth wheel it pulls great and the shock absorbers help with a smooth ride.we took a ten day trip from Ga to Maine last September and had no problems with this hitch. I guess the only negative is that it’s not as easy as a regular fifth wheel hitch to hook up by yourself but after a few times you can line it up ok. The best thing is that no big hitch taking up space in my truck bed just a ball
I have towed now for a few thousand miles since changing to this pin box and honestly wish I had done this years ago! It tows so much better than my 5th wheel box did! Feels more stable, no more bucking and so much softer and better feel when towing! Not to mention so much less hassle dealing with a 5th wheel hitch!
Makes life a lot easier l don’t have to remove my hitch from the bed of my truck to use it. Just flip the ball and there you go.
The gooseneck hitch actually pulls better than the 5th wheel hitch I had.
It is rather heavy so come up with a good plan for installing, I used the front end loader on my tractor which allowed me to do the install by myself.
Great product!!!
Does a fantastic job. After 4 or 500 miles the ride quality smoothed out considerably. Extremely well built!!
I have been well pleased and excepcetionally satisfied with the Gen-Y pin box. We just returned from Texas making a 3000 mile roundtrip and encountered multiple rough roads.There was none of the chucking that I experienced towing with the turning point 5th wheel. A gooseneck is much superior to a 5th wheel in my opinion
I’m really happy with my purchase. Please take into account that this hitch is 2-3” shorter than the kingpin box. They do make an extended version. I had to buy a 4” ball offset, as I couldn’t open my tailgate Without hitting the camper. I love having the open bed space, it seems to be smoother and it’s less noisy then the pin box.
Easy install with a couple people, after install from a fifth wheel hitch it’s noticeable less noisy, less moving parts, frees up bed space and has a much smoother ride. I recommend this hitch 100% for fifth wheel campers.
This product is a chucking ENHANCER, not a chucking dampener. Additionally, despite what you have read, my experience with GenY customer service has been terrible. GenY will not support their warranty program, they will try to tell you everything is OK, when the fact is, their product is faulty and does not function to GenY product literature statements “Built-In Suspension Creates Up to 90% Smoother Ride”.
I purchased the GenY executive hitch from eTrailer on 3/10/23, etrailer sent the wrong unit and to etrailer’s credit - they quickly took responsibility and replaced with the correct unit on 3/24/23. I installed on my DRV Elite Suites PS3 just in time to attend the SOITC rally at the Outer Banks on 4/13/23. When we left for this 750-mile one-way trip, the GenY load indicator was in the middle of the green zone, I measured the pin load at 5,200 pounds. Bedrail clearance was my reason for buying the GenY, it replaced a Trail Air on my DRV and a Reese 27,000-pound hitch on my 2022 F450. Bottom line, the GenY system provided no improvement in bedrail clearance, but did offer the ability to switch in different gooseneck balls to adjust for bedrail clearance.
GenY states that a 1,000-mile break in period is required before the GenY torsion system is fully effective. My experience was that at 750 miles the torsion system on the GenY had sagged to it lowest point with the load indicator in the unit outside of the green, this also resulted in losing nearly two inches of bedrail clearance. It looks like it has a metal-to-metal stop so that the lowest the indicator will go is to the white lines outside of the green. I called GenY from the RV park and was told that the unit would not sag further. I purchased a Curt gooseneck ball which was 2 inches higher than the Ford ball to regain bedrail clearance having to rapid ship it to the RV park.
Chucking became downright scary on the 750-trip home. As an example, chucking was induced every time my truck’s ten-speed transmission shifted up. Upon arrival home, I again contacted GenY customer service with a full expectation that GenY would replace the unit. Instead, here is their response: “I spoke with our QC Manager regarding your hitch. He said that you are in the correct unit and being at the top end of the green is normal after the break-in miles. As for the bedrail clearance he said that you would be able to lower the pin box down a set of bolts (with our pin boxes you are only required a minimum of 4 grade eight bolts per side) or use a B&W ball as they are roughly 1 1/2” taller.” This is unacceptable...
Without a doubt the biggest difference maker I have ever used in my 50 plus years pulling trailers. When my wife had to concede that the Gen-Y gooseneck hitch made such a drastic difference.... enough said!
Shipping on this item was quick and packaged extremely well. The GenY hitch exceeded our expectations. We just completed a 600 mile trip. In the first 100 miles we noticed some stiffness, but after that it loosened up and on the return home we definitely noticed a difference. The hitch is very easy to hook up and as long as you are within a few inches the hitch will center itself and slide onto the ball. We towed with an F350 6 3/4 foot bed and I do not see any need for the 4 inch extension ball setup. A subcompact tractor makes 1 person install of the hitch a complete breeze. The angle is perfect. I ordered the GenY chains and mounting bolts and all worked very well.
The toy hauler pulls so much smoother. I wasn’t expecting to increase my MPG but, I gained a 1/2 mile per gallon. Dealing with etrailer was great as usual.
Great replacement for the Curt Turning Point pin box! Easy to install and took a couple hours since I did it by myself. I had to purchase new 5/8” locknuts as the originals from the Curt install needed replacing. I also had to buy (4) 5/8” nuts from Tractor Supply since the Curt install had nuts welded on the front 4 bolt locations. I used the Curt 5/8” bolts and flat washers since they did not need replacing. I haven’t had a chance to get the trailer on the road yet, but see no reason why it will not pull nicely with the Gen Y gooseneck. It will be pulled with a 2022 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD 6.6 Duramax and 10 speed Allison transmission.
Order arrived on time. Packaging looked almost perfect with one corner of the box slightly damaged. Two of us installed the hitch without too much of a problem. It is heavy. Used some WD40 on the inside of the mount. Balance it on the tailgate of the truck. One strong man plus an old guy was able to get it installed. I will update this once we have a couple thousand miles on it.
All I can say is THANK YOU Tiffani S.! At first there was a mix-up and some issues with the order and re-applying a rebate that had expired, but finding Tiffani fixed everything. She was able to make things happen the way they should've from the beginning, and she got me all squared away. I have not installed the hitch yet, but things look like they should fit and are high quality.
Best upgrade I have done on my RV. Hitching up a gooseneck is a little more difficult but well worth it. It allowed me to remove the large heavy 5th wheel hitch out of the bed of the truck. I love the damping of the trailer bouncing. This hitch allows my RV move with the truck and I don’t feel that bounce of the truck is passed to the RV hitch like it was with the 5th wheel hitch. Hitch is heave and it really would help to have two people to install it. I’ve done it twice. Once with help and once without. Using the bed of the truck and a lever I was able to install the hitch myself.
This pull so much nocer than a 5th wheel hitch.
Just wanted to give you a heads up, hitch just arrived as promised. Packing could have been a bit more effective as it is apparent that its been dropped unfortunately it broke the finish in a couple places. I will address it and im not asking for anything as i know your not the shipper. Thanks
Quality build, easy install, let your truck and trailer do the heavy lifting. My wife and I did this install and took about an hour to get it bolted. I also bought the Grade 8 bolt kit. I’m hauling 20K GTW. The original hitch had Grade 5 bolts and only 5 per side. Now I have 6 per side, 160ft.lb. on bolt torque
This was the perfect replacement for my 5th wheel king pin. It was easy to install and has a much smoother ride! I would definitely purchase this again!
The Gen-Y hitch is very stout & well built. Fit & finish was excellent.
Installed myself in about 30 minutes.
Installation was very straight forward, it is heavy so you need something to prop it up for you while you get at least one bolt started in each side. I used the bucket on my tractor to hold it up. I only have one tow in so far for about 50 miles so still early to review. It certainly works as advertised for taking out a lot of the trailer feedback on rough roads, uneven transitions, etc. It is an improvement in ride quality and makes towing a big fifth wheel more comfortable. Necessary? Probably not but it does spoil you a little bit. One problem though that Gen-Y is working on fixing is the ball to pinbox is a little bit longer and I did hit the bed cap at about 60 deg of turn while backing in at an angle. It cleared when I tested it in the flat driveway, but not by much. They are going to come up with a fix. I'm at 7 1/2" clearance from the overhang to the bed caps sitting flat. This is with a '18 Chev Silverado HD 8' bed and a '19 Momentum 351M
Because of my bad back I replaced my B&W Companion hitch & Lippert Rota Flex hitch pin which I loved using. There is a learning curve with hitching a gooseneck trailer but with some reflective tape on the center line above the coupler on the gooseneck and a telescoping yellow ball hitching aid with a magnetic base on the truck bed just in front of the ball. This hitch setup is softer and smoother towing than my old setup and I have about 5k miles of use.
Just received today after I tracked the whereabouts with not-so-accurate UPS LTL FREIGHT tracking. I difficulty located local freight company that just received this terribly torn up cardboard package with this 205# parcel. Hitch had been placed onto some pallet enroute because it was no longer contained in its GEN Y box. Extent of damage I’ve yet to determine though it has a long and deep gash into the powder coat finish down the exposed side.
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