How to Tow 5th Wheel Trailer with MorRyde Orbital Pin Box with 2020 Silverado and Gooseneck Hitch

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2020 Silverado 3500HD 79,44 inch bed length with a BandW #1020 goose ball, bed rails are 59 inches. Looking to purchase 2020 Jayco that has a Morryde orbital pin box. Pullrite says their 3900 and 2600 will work but the Orbital needs to be locked so it wont turn. sort of defeats the major benefit of the pin box with a shorter bed. Cant change the Morryde pin box since the 5th wheel frame is designed different to fit the morryde. Any suggestions on what would work or should I find a 5th wheel with a conventional pin box and get a reese goose box

asked by: Keith

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I definitely have some great options for you however, as you mentioned in your question, the only way to use any kind of gooseneck to 5th wheel adapter like the PullRite units you were looking at or the similar (but superior in my opinion) Demco Recon # DM8550045 will be to lock out that MorRyde Orbital Pin Box.

This is simply because when you're dealing with a rotating pin box there has to be more than one attachment point to the truck's frame with regards to the hitch assembly. Otherwise there's just going to be too much stress put on the hitch and it could lead to damage down the road.

Now one thing I would keep in mind if you really like the Jayco trailer you're considering is that you may not need the additional cab clearance the pivoting pin box gives you, even with the short bed. The new generation GM trucks have a slightly longer "short bed" than previous generations and if the Jayco trailer has a tapered nose, I don't think you will really have an issue making sharper turns with the pin box locked out.

This would allow you to keep everything as-is on your setup with the addition of an in-bed adapter like the mentioned Demco Recon # DM8550045. The Recon sports a better jaw design with its wraparound single-piece construction and 3/4" thick steel locking bar that not only provides an extremely secure connection with the trailer but also creates a really smooth, quiet ride during travel.

Otherwise your best option will indeed be to go with a different trailer that's equipped with a standard pin box. Your options at that point would be much more numerous. A Reese Goose Box like # RP85FR that you mentioned (which is designed to replace the Lippert 1621, 1621HD, and 0719 pin box) is a great solution, or you could even go with the B&W Companion Slider # BWRVK3400-5W which is specifically designed to mount to the Turnoverball gooseneck hole you already have on your truck. This is one of the best 5th wheel hitches on the market and its 12" slider travel will give you all the cab clearance you need.

I have attached a few video demonstrations on these products that you can check out as well.

expert reply by: Chris R

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Answer 1

For a 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 2500, I recommend the B&W Companion OEM 5th Wheel Hitch part #BWRVK3710 or part #BWRVK3775 over the Curt A20 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch part #C84FR. The reason for this is because the cam-action handle on the B&W…

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Answer 2

There are two horizontal positions that the B and W Patriot Slider part #BWRVK3270 can be in when installing in a set of fifth wheel rails. The forward-most position of the hitch head will get you the closest to the center between the rails. It will…

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Answer 3

The B&W Companion hitches that mount inside a gooseneck ball hole, such as #BWRVK3400 and #BWRVK3500, cannot be used with Sidewinder, Revolution or Turning Point pivoting pin boxes because that one square center mounting post cannot handle the…

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Answer 4

For the B&W Patriot 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch, #BWRVK3255 we actually have a great installation video created; I have linked it below. I have attached a help article for 5th wheel installation tips as well. You will need to measure your king pin…

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Answer 5

Total weight for the B and W Patriot Slider hitch part #BWRVK3270 is 221 lbs. The slider base on it's own weighs 169 lbs and the head weighs 52 lbs.

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Answer 6

While the older Curt A-Series fifth wheel hitches were compatible with rotating pin boxes, the newer style has not been confirmed to fit yet. For this reason, I would switch to a fifth wheel hitch that is confirmed to work with Morryde Orbital Pin…

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Answer 7

You are right about the 2020 Chevy Silverado 2500 short bed being slightly longer than the 2016 models; according to Chevy, the 2020 short bed is 82.25 inches while the 2016 short bed is 78.9 inches. That isn't enough of a difference to negate…

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Answer 8

B&W offers both a sliding version, part #BWRVK3775 and a stationary version #BWRVK3710 of their excellent Companion 5th wheel hitch. We typically recommend going with a sliding 5th wheel hitch on any truck with a bed shorter than 8 feet in…

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Answer 9

While we have not tested the B&W Companion Hitch #BWRVK3710 with the BAKFlip MX4 #BAK24FR on an 8-foot bed 2022 Chevy Silverado 2500, there are things we can look at to give you a good idea of compatibility. The first thing to note is that the…

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Answer 10

Thank you for that information with the photo, and I reached out to Lippert to find the pin box you have, and they told me that you had a Lippert 1621HD pin box. We do have the MORryde cushioned pin box that will work as a replacement with the…

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Answer 11

There are a couple of options that'll work great with your Lippert Turning Point Pin Box, however one hitch stands out to me more than others. Take a look at the: -Curt E16 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch - Slide Bar Jaw - 16,000 lbs #C16115 This 5th…

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Answer 12

While we don't have a video that details how the head of the Reese Titan hitch part #RP30866 removes I did attach an exploded diagram that shows how all of the pieces of the hitch assemble to help with disassembly. The hitch really wasn't…

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