Ford Integrated Brake Controller Not Working Well with Trailer with Electric/Hydraulic Setup

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Three axle voltage toy hauler 2012 will a stock Ford F3 50 controller work on thatThe truck seems like trailer is not stopping Right the voltage on the brakes on the camper right about 7.5 .and camper seems to push on the truck

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The integrated brake controller of a 2012 Ford F-350 is SUPPOSED to be compatible with electric over hydraulic brake actuators on trailers but what we've found is that a lot of integrated truck brake controllers just don't work consistently well with them. The best solution is to replace the controller with an aftermarket one like the P3 part # 90195 which is rock solid with EOH brake setups.

The Ford factory brake controller that is in the dash does not have to be removed. You will need to unplug the connector under the dash and plug in the # 3034-P adapter for the Prodigy P3 brake controller to the factory brake controller plug behind the dash.

The vehicle will need the computer flashed so it will keep from searching for the connection to the OEM brake controller in the future, eliminating any fault codes. This will usually have to be done at the Ford Dealer.

expert reply by: Jameson C

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Steve

8/3/2020

I have a 2011 - F250 super duty. I have recently converted my 5th wheel to disc brakes with the hydrastar actuator. I have the actuator adapter module. I have seen comments where the system works and where they don’t. Should the set up I have work for my unit?

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Chris R.

8/13/2020

From what I could find the HydraStar Actuator # HBA16 should actually be directly compatible with the factory brake controller on your 2011 F-250 without the need for the adapter module.

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Steve

8/13/2020

@ChrisR Hope to test it out this weekend, I will let you know steve

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Steve

8/27/2020

@ChrisR I have completed the install and tested the system. With the adapter module installed, the brake system with the Hydrastar hydraulic unit DOES work. I noticed a slight delay before the brakes activate, but I believe this is normal since the Hydrastar pump need a second to spool up and build pressure. So far it is working as hoped. And the stopping power of disc brakes is a quantium leap above the electric drum brakes. Exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks

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Answer 1

Some trailer brake controllers, including many factory-installed models, will not work with an electric-over-hydraulic type trailer brake actuator like the Hydrastar #HBA16. EOH actuators like this present a very different electrical load to the…

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Answer 2

I spoke with my contact at Carlisle who manufacturers Hydrastar about your 2014 Ford F-150 with the factory brake controller. In order for the brakes to operate correctly with the Hydrastar actuator, you will need the Carlisle Control Adapter…

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Answer 3

As you can see on the attached photo, the wiring diagram for HydraStar Adapter #HBA-CAM shows there can be a 25-40 amp circuit breaker in-line with the black wiring which goes from the battery's positive terminal to the adapter. I would stick…

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Answer 4

Since you are not getting the 12V power when your truck is running, you most likely don't have a fuse issue as you stated their isn't a specified fuse or relay in the owners manual. The issue is that your truck is computerized even at the…

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Answer 5

The old version of the #HBA-CAM used 4 wires, but the product was updated awhile back and now uses only two wires as shown in the photo on the product description page. The white wire from the HBA-CAM would tap into the white ground wire and the blue…

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